INTERESTING CONVERSATION
Tuesday, December 12, 2006
An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem
science has with God, The Almighty.
He asks one of his new Christian students to stand and.....
Professor: You are a Christian, aren't you, son?
Student : Yes, sir.
Prof: So you believe in God?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Prof: Is God good?
Student : Sure.
Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student : Yes.
Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him.
Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't.
How is this God good then? Hmm?
(Student is silent.)
Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?
Student :Yes.
Prof: Is Satan good?
Student : No.
Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student : From...God...
Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student : Yes.
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Prof: So who created evil?
(Student does not answer.)
Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?
All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student :Yes, sir.
Prof: So, who created them?
(Student has no answer.)
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the
world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student : No , sir.
Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God?
Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student : Yes.
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says
your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Prof: Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.
Student : No sir. There isn't.
(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat,
white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold.
We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go
any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we
use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold.
Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.
(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something.
You can have low light, normal light , bright light, flashing
light....But if you
have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it?
In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness
darker, wouldn't you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality.
You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God.
You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we
can measure.
Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism,
but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death a s
the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a
substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a
monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes,
of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his h ead with a smile, beginning to realize where the
argument is going.)
Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at
work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavour,
are you not
teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
(The class is in uproar.)
Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?
(The class breaks out int o laughter.)
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's
brain, felt it, touched or smelt it?.....No one appears to have done
so.
So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable
protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face
unfathomable.)
Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Student : That is it sir.. The link between man & God is FAITH.
That is all that keeps things moving & alive.
NB:
I believe you have enjoyed the conversation...and if so...you'll
probably want your friends/colleagues to enjoy the same...won't
you?...forward them to increase their knowledge...
Have a nice day..
Absence of light = darkness. We know light exists, and we know there is an absence of light.
There is proof that light exists.
There is no proof that God exists.
It's not about having faith or not having faith, it's a question of blind faith.
The facts are that there is no record of humans who do not contain brains. That we share many genes with other animals. Therefore the theory of evolution is probable to be correct.
It isn't correct nor incorrect, but the facts co-inside with the theories, this makes it more likely to be correct.
The same line of thought is used with the professors brain, we've never found a live human who is/was alive without a brain. When thinking about "higher" thoughts, our frontal lobes have been more active. This has been seen through MRI scanning. Therefore it is probable that higher thought is only possible by using our frontal lobes.
With God, there is no evidence of God existing, just as there is no evidence of the spaghetti monster existing, they are both, unlikely. Therefore, with the lack of facts we have about the existence of a God, it is unlikely that God exists.
That isn't to say there definitely is not a God, but that it is unlikely that there is. There are plenty of theories about God(s) but no facts. The problem is not faith, the problem is blind faith, to believe in something that has no facts.
Often I find religious people saying things such as: "I don't know why something happens, it's God." This is a perfect example of blind faith, whilst not all religious people say this (in my experience) many that I have spoken with (also, in my experience) have said that, or the equivalent of that.
To put that phrase another way, they do no know the cause of something, therefore they attribute it to something that has no link as far as we can tell. Because there is no factual link, only a theoretical link (a factual link being something along the lines of, if there are no forces on the ball, e.g. gravity, a mallet hitting it, etc. the ball should not move. If the ball was to move then we would see a fact, and have to review our knowledge of the laws of physics. The factual link being that without forces on the ball, the ball will not move.)
The theoretical link is, there is no factual basis for God to exist, there is no evidence of this, nor God doing that thing that we do not know. (remember we're talking about "I don't know, it's God".
Sorry if this is a bit messy, I'm not a fan of small boxes and lots of scrolling (and sorry for any spelling errors).